Control of federal lands emerges as an issue in the GOP presidential race

 “The further we move east,” he said, “the more confused people get about public lands.”

A Handbook for Ranch Managers Ain’t that the damned truth? The problem is that everybody (easterner as well as westerner) is paying the price for piss poor land management.

I should remind you: It is not just the “states” that should own the land. Many of those resources already belong to private owners by way of the establishment of property rights through the “beneficial use” doctrine.  Planned Grazing: A Study Guide and Reference Manual  See, for example, the Wayne Hage case:…/dp/0939571153

I only support State “ownership” because it is a step in the right direction (Rothbard Doctrine). — jtl, 419

Combat Shooter's Handbook If Ken Ivory could ask the Republican presidential hopefuls a question at their debate Wednesday night in Colorado, the state lawmaker from Utah would raise a subject that might seem arcane to much of the nation but no doubt would stir strong responses from the event’s Western audience.

First, Ivory would hold up a color-coded map showing the huge amount of land in the West — about 50% of the entire region, compared with a fraction of that in the East — owned by the federal government.

  The Betrayed: On Warriors, Cowboys and Other MisfitsThen Ivory would hit the candidates with his radical proposal: Why not transfer control of most of that land to the states, which could clear the way for more hunting and fishing, more oil wells and coal mines and tree harvests, with all the economic benefits that surely would follow?

“Why shouldn’t the federal government have to treat all the states equally?” said Ivory, himself a Republican, who has been pitching his plan around the country through an advocacy group he founded, the American Lands Council. “If they were really serious about a solution big enough to solve so many of the major issues that face our nation — economic, environmental, national security, energy — this is the only solution.”

Reconnaissance Marine MCI 03.32f: Marine Corps InstituteRand Paul and Ted Cruz are among those who have strongly endorsed the idea, but other Republican candidates also have signaled varying degrees of sympathy for conservative voters in Colorado and beyond who are frustrated by what many say are excessively restrictive federal policies on public lands in the West.

It is hardly a new cry — and experts widely dismiss the notion as economically and environmentally implausible — but it appears to be getting louder.

At least 10 states in recent years have approved legislation that tries to claim federal land or explore the possibility of doing so, helping prompt the Republican National Committee last year to draft a “resolution in support of Western states taking back public lands.” Some Western Republicans, facing battles with the federal government over mining and water quality controls, have called for abolishing the Environmental Protection Agency.

Last week, Jeb Bush, a relative moderate in the current Republican field, outlined a federal lands policy he said would direct federal agencies to allow states to determine, “consistent with law,” land uses that are sustainable and locally compatible.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) released an energy policy this month pledging that his administration would “work with Congress to ensure that states and tribes — not the federal government — have the primary role in oversight of energy development within their borders.”

And Donald Trump, one of the GOP front-runners, has called for dismantling the EPA. “What they do is a disgrace,” Trump told Fox News. “Every week they come out with new regulations. They’re making it impossible.”

A report this week from the left-leaning Center for American Progress Action Fund found that seven GOP presidential candidates — Paul, Cruz, Rubio, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum — have expressed support for transferring or privatizing U.S. land and energy reserves.

In a campaign in which Nevada, Colorado, Utah and Arizona all hold early primaries, dropping such populist talking points into speeches to conservative audiences is not surprising. Whether the issue will endure is a different question.

“They may throw the red meat when they’re in the Western states, but you don’t see it resonate that often in the national elections,” said John Freemuth, a professor at Boise State University who specializes in public lands issues. Many people outside the region are unfamiliar with federal bureaucracies such as the Bureau of Land Management, a powerful overseer of grazing lands and mining claims for those in the West, Freemuth said.

“The further we move east,” he said, “the more confused people get about public lands.”

Yet even with no branded Western candidate among the front-runners in either party, people on various sides of public lands issues say they believe this election could be different. Broad questions over climate change, drought and domestic energy development — fossil fuels and renewables — connect directly to Western public lands policy, and they are likely to increase with a summit in Paris in December intended to establish international goals for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

Specific battles continue as well, including the fate of Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who came to an armed standoff against the government last year when the BLM tried to enforce grazing policies he has been defying for years.

Another point of contention: The refusal of Rep. Rob Bishop, a Utah Republican who leads the House Committee on Natural Resources, to allow a vote on renewal of the widely popular Land and Water Conservation Fund, which uses royalties from offshore oil and gas drilling to protect public land.

“I like lands, public lands that are actually controlled by people who live here,” Bishop told the Fox television affiliate in Salt Lake City recently. “I don’t like our public lands, our federal lands, to be controlled by somebody who lives in Washington.”

There are also fights over rules limiting hydraulic fracturing for oil and gas production on public land, royalties paid to the government by coal mining companies, and hunting restrictions in Alaska.

A poll of likely voters in Colorado and Nevada this month conducted by a bipartisan team commissioned by the Outdoor Industry Assn. found that 62% of voters in Colorado, including 54% of Republicans, agreed with the idea that transferring federal lands to state ownership could leave the state with insufficient funds to fight wildfires and, if auctioned off to private owners, jeopardize the ability of future generations to enjoy them.

Matt Lee-Ashley, who works on public lands issues at the Center for American Progress, said the group’s report found that some Republican candidates appeared to be speaking in coded language to convey to conservative donors that the energy industry would find it easier to extract fossil fuels from public lands under their administrations because the candidates, if elected, would transfer control of those lands to states.


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3 Responses to Control of federal lands emerges as an issue in the GOP presidential race

  1. Rich says:

    “Experts” are skeptical, writes the LA Times, but who exactly are these experts and in what areas of knowledge do they have this expertise? Did I miss something in this article?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Nope. You didn’t miss anything. We need to ask the author that same question.


    • I posted the following to the comments section of the article on the LA Times web page:

      Did any of you morons ever hear of the “equal footing doctrine?”

      Do any of you know what an “enabling act” is (was)?

      Do any of you know who John Locke was and how he influenced the American “founding?”

      Are any of you aware of “prior appropriation rights and the beneficial use doctrine?”

      Are any of you aware that the courts have ruled that certain users of the land (loggers, miners, ranchers, etc) have actually established private property rights in the so-called “public” lands?

      Are any of you aware of the Wayne Hage case?

      Do any of you know how much (what percentages of the acreages) of the so-called “public” lands that the FedGov claims title to in the 11 Western States vs. how much it claims title to in all the other States?

      Do any of you know the definition of “Communism?”

      Lets start simple… Spend 20 minutes researching answers to the questions above and get back to me when you have a slightly better grasp of how wrong you are.


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